Thursday, May 21, 2009

Morning in Vana'diel: Tuning Out on New Gear.

Morning in Vana'diel is your daily dose of FFXI and all things Vana'diel. Give us your thoughts on the interesting topics of the day! Today, a quick look at Mythics and gear statistics.

The problem with the Mythics so far is just like the problems that SE has with almost all of it's gear. They can't decide how good they want their gear to be. Too many times they just make the gear without considering the alternatives that people use, instead of tuning the gear they are making to fit in some kind of pre-existing order. For example, why doesn't SE look at the highest tier of regularly available gear/weapons before making new gear. I believe the only time they may have actually considered this was when creating the Salvage gear. I don't know why, when creating a different tier of extremely hard to get weapons, they don't consider what is already available as a benchmark.

This is true of Mythics and Relics as much as it is true that there hasn't really been anything added that can beat HQ staffs. It's like Blizzard and SE are the Odd Couple. Blizzard is all math and formulas and DPS, and SE is all crazy ideas, weird innovations and huge spikes in damage. What all MMO'ers need is World of Fantasy-craft XI! What do you think? Does SE just make new gear without consideration of older gear? Does SE actually like how gear currently works and likes the itemization that already exist? Tell us what you think!

90 comments:

Anonymous said...

We all know SE has been very careful about adding new top end gear. I think they have a reason.

Looking at Kaeko's BLM and SCH posts, you can see the expense and difficulty of creating a 320/120 build, the minimum for effectively nuking Tiamat and Khimaira. Adding an INT+5 Elemental+5 ranged weapon would be a dream for BLMs, but will it make 320/120 too easy and too common? If 320/120 is enough for Tiamat, is 325/125 enough for AV? SE has a delicate balance between the top monsters and the top gear, I think they're scared to upset that.

Likewise, if they added a haste+3 grip, who would want dusk+1? 17-18% haste is easy enough for normal people, 25% on most jobs costs 50 mil or more. The hope of HQ gloves drives the leathercrafting economy.

--cele

Tuufless said...

I’m going to take up a contrary position and say that I think Celes gives SE too much credit. ^^

Looking at HQ staves in particular, it is as if the original members of the team that implemented the HQ staves have moved onto other projects, and the current team is simply unaware of their implementation.

This can be illustrated by the BLM and SCH mythic weapons, which you can take as genuine attempts at creating very powerful weapons for a particular job, in this case, BLM and SCH.

Simply slapping “Magic Attack Bonus” and a large number at the end almost feels like a child’s attempt at creating a powerful weapon for a nuking job, in that it doesn’t feel like it has been thought out at all, or that the team is just oblivious to how magical damage is even calculated.

I don't think all this was intentional at all, rather, it was just a product of the dev team being ignorant of (their own) game mechanics.


More interesting is the Dorje, which almost feels like a “8-in-1” staff, partly because of the +10hMP reminiscent of a Dark Staff, but also because the +25MAB actually comes close to comparing with an HQ staff in terms of damage, just because the number is high enough.

However, even if we ignore the other benefits of an HQ staff like Magic Accuracy, conditions still apply for the Dorje to outperform HQ staves just in terms of damage alone. For BLMs that have the gear to reach the requisite MAB (67MAB total), staves will still out-damage a Dorje.

As Kaeko put it on his blog, this does mean that the Dorje is the most damaging weapon available to SCH, because SCH cannot reach the 67MAB requisite for HQ staves to take over, while a well geared BLM still can.

Going back to the point though, I’d be curious if the dev team actually did the math to come to the number 25MAB, or was it simply a number pulled out of thin air.

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